mittens ([info]enigmasapple) wrote in [info]fireflyfans,
2005-12-20 10:27:00
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Joss Declared the End

Bad news: In this weeks Entertainment Weekly in the News and Notes section Joss Whedon announced some news: he has given up on the Firefly saga. Despite the film getting "some of the best reviews of the year", since it seems there is not a large enough audience that a studio/corporation belives in, and also since we did get the big movie, he has given up on Firefly. He is making two more films: Wonder Woman, and a thriller for Universal. He will make which ever one gets greenlighted first first.

Good news: THE BUFFYVERSE ISN'T OVER!!! It the same article he is working on the Buffy comic series. "The eigth season we never made." (If anyone can give me a link to those please comment) and some direct to video movies of charchters are in the works. One he mention is SPIKE!

Well we got a film, and one great season (as first seasons go.) Maybe it will lead him to a huge hit. Who knows!

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[info]magicalcow

December 20 2005, 15:37:32 UTC 6 years ago

I'm sure that article's been denounced by every browncoat going as a complete pile of rubbish o_O

[info]sarah_1228

December 20 2005, 15:40:55 UTC 6 years ago

well this browncoat is totally denouncing it

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[info]moweasley

December 20 2005, 16:08:35 UTC 6 years ago

Joss said that DVD sales were important. This browncoat is buying a crapload today.

We're doing the impossible... that makes us mighty.

[info]sonador_poeta

December 20 2005, 18:03:23 UTC 6 years ago

We're doing the impossible... that makes us mighty.

sounds like i'm not the only one who went to a preview!

boo to big name hollywood studios!
they keep producing crap with no real depth, and when something comes along that has it, and is quality, they poo-poo it and the makers' efforts.

bastards!

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[info]exposed1

December 20 2005, 16:12:34 UTC 6 years ago

Yeah I'm heading to Wal-Mart in about an hour and getting my copy of "Serenity" possibly two...

Plus remember in interviews and what not Joss always goes back to if there is a story to tell I wanna tell it and I think we all agree that there is a lot more to tell in regards to "Firefly"/"Serenity"

[info]enigmasapple

December 20 2005, 18:43:36 UTC 6 years ago

Yes, but no one wants to make something to just be underground.

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[info]rocketer

December 20 2005, 16:32:41 UTC 6 years ago

I think Joss is taking a break from the universe now, but will return. He mentioned about there being some more comics and I think that if the sales of the movie on DVD are good (which I think they will be), perhaps we'll get a bit more, maybe a mini-series or a movie on say Sci-Fi or something.

I have actually thought about the movie a lot and I have decided that the movie was never made to make money by Joss, but to reward the fans. I mean the amount of screenings was incredibly high for a movie, so quite a few of the big fans got to see it for free and some multiple times. Sure many went to see it again but if they hadn't seen it previously, they would have seen it two-three times, paying for it. Joss also knows that they will all buy a copy on DVD when it comes out. So the movie wasn't put at the theaters to make bucks, but as a reward for those who wouldn't give up, and hey if crossed over and made some money, well that be ok too, but hew knew that it would sell big on DVD, thus if he wanted to continue or have an option to continue, I'm sure someone will open the door for him.

[info]enigmasapple

December 20 2005, 18:42:25 UTC 6 years ago

I also think it might be good to die for he dosn't ruin it as its good now. Not to say he would, but I think short is better than being remembered as crapola.

[info]chexee

December 20 2005, 16:43:38 UTC 6 years ago

I hope to God he changes his mind :

[info]enigmasapple

December 20 2005, 18:40:11 UTC 6 years ago

lets not be selfish. He ha sa career he shouldn't trow away.

[info]electrcspacegrl

December 20 2005, 17:09:15 UTC 6 years ago

Hey, don't believe everything you read. The EW take on Joss' view of the Firefly verse contradicts every other interview he's given. A journalist can spin an interview any way they like. Please don't take the EW interview as the law. I don't believe it, not because I don't want to, but because it's only one interview in a pile of interviews which say something completely different.

[info]exposed1

December 20 2005, 17:22:48 UTC 6 years ago

I completely agree with you 100%

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[info]chexee

December 20 2005, 17:09:42 UTC 6 years ago

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1141343_1_0_,00.html

Original.

[info]wandereringray

December 20 2005, 17:54:14 UTC 6 years ago

"In the end, it was what it was: a tough sell," says Whedon, adding that it appears the Firefly saga has reached its conclusion. He has no regrets — and he's moving on.

Seems pretty black and white clear to me. I'm actually glad, it's good for him to move on. Much as we may want more Firefly, Joss does have to consider his career. Dwelling on (and trying to sell something so off-beat) would only prohibit him from creating the next fun and interesting world.

It's too bad we don't have official new stuff coming, but at the same time I'm looking forward to whatever Joss' new concept may be. If anything, as fans, supporting him in his move forward is the best thing we could do.

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[info]norokrex

December 20 2005, 18:08:19 UTC 6 years ago

Under the catigory of "for what its worth" I heard from a semi relilyable souce that all of the actors are signed up for another while. ( Sorry for the vagery)

[info]enigmasapple

December 20 2005, 18:24:38 UTC 6 years ago

Um..that makes no differance. the buffy cast except Buffy was signed on for an eigth season.

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[info]electrojunk

December 20 2005, 18:36:29 UTC 6 years ago

R.I.P.
I wish I could've seen series two next year :-s

[info]eggzbenedikt

December 20 2005, 18:44:50 UTC 6 years ago

Whether he's done with the Firefly 'verse or not I should like to point out this quote from the EW website:

"As for Serenity, 'I have closure,' he says. 'And now, I can have it in my home — which means that finally I can actually stop working on it.'"

Does it sound to any of you that he's just talking about finally being finished with the movie instead of the entire 'verse? It would be a Joss-esque thing to say, considering that Serenity had been his greatest undertaking yet.

[info]enigmasapple

December 20 2005, 18:53:09 UTC 6 years ago

Buffy was his greatest undertalking. I think he means the whole verse. I don't say Firefly I say Serenity.

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[info]sensitivinferno

December 20 2005, 18:47:51 UTC 6 years ago

Bummer. Firefly is SO much better than Buffy, IMO. I could never really get into the whole Buffy thing, even after having several friends who are big fans, and seeing some of the "best" episodes of the series.

[info]enigmasapple

December 20 2005, 18:50:40 UTC 6 years ago

Buffy is great only if you watch every epsiode in order. You have to carry the emotional intensity to each episode to connect. I like Buffy better, because I like its greater metaphore: adolecence is full of demons, but in the end they all, including the first, and creator who knows us best, dies.

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[info]underpants

December 20 2005, 18:54:31 UTC 6 years ago

At least this will make your seven steps of grief easy.

Don't sell your Vespa to go buy 30 DVD's, please. There is no hope. ;)

[info]karyyk

December 20 2005, 20:29:19 UTC 6 years ago

Hmmm, doesn't be also say that he's working on new Serenity comics?

From Comingsoon.net:

"Yeah, I'm going to be doing another year of "X-Men" and some "Buffy" comics and some more "Serenity" comics, so I'll be busy."

That's dated December 19th...yesterday...that hardly sounds like he's given up, just placed it on the backburner (at this point, it's very dependent on DVD sales, so why not...he's a busy guy).

He says as much:

CS: What's going to happen with the "Serenity" franchise now? Are you just going to put it on the backburner?

Whedon: Yeah, you know, that's pretty much it. It was hard to make and I'm very tired. I need some sleep, and then we'll see if people are interested in more, than I have more say.

[info]enigmasapple

December 27 2005, 16:08:32 UTC 6 years ago

Is tehre any trades of Buffy or Serenity comics?

[info]tomobiki_yuu

December 20 2005, 20:47:35 UTC 6 years ago

YAY!! finally he is using what little brain cells he has and realizes he's a one hit wonder pony, nothing more. that show was so slow, boring and without any innovation to it. he just ripped off Soylent Green, WestWorld, Logan's Run, Silent Running, and few other sci-fi movies to make his craptastic show and money wasting movie.

I for one am glad he's giving it up, for good.

[info]slashaddict

December 20 2005, 23:29:04 UTC 6 years ago

troll :D

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[info]emperor799

December 20 2005, 20:51:32 UTC 6 years ago

I call bullshit.

http://wwwj.comcast.net/movies/news/index.jsp?cat=MOVIES&fn=/articles/josswhedon.html

A direct quote from Joss's mouth: "The, um, the movie is finished. And the story is told. The world is not finished. There’s more to tell, but that’s always the case with everything I do and whether I get the chance to tell [it] or not it is up to somebody else. So I made sure that this movie had completion and didn’t feel like a glorified prequel. It’s its own piece and it wraps everything up. I have a sense of closure that I never had, and I can walk away satisfied. But if somebody tells me not to walk away, I’ll turn right back around."

[info]nittacci

December 20 2005, 21:06:39 UTC 6 years ago

not everything lasts forever

Just because we all love a certain series, it doesn't mean that it can't come to a satisfying end, even if "there is more story to tell".

I can wish for a novel by Nabokov of Lolita grown up, and a couple more seasons of Star Trek TNG, but it's OK if it doesn't happen.

In the world of artistic endeavor, the rule is "leave them wanting more". In this regard, Firefly/Serenity has been a great success. I wouldn't blame JW if he never made another one. I'll still be satisfied with what there is.

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[info]thegrlwhowaited

December 20 2005, 21:53:18 UTC 6 years ago

He gave up? What! That's awful.


I'm glad he's not giving up On the Buffyverse but... Fireflyverse?


[info]enigmasapple

December 21 2005, 13:47:51 UTC 6 years ago

Fireflyverse is a way harder sell. He hasn't given up he's let it go.

[info]ewysiwyg

December 20 2005, 22:11:18 UTC 6 years ago

There weren't that many Gilligan's Island episodes but it stayed on the air my entire lifetime.

[info]lyea

December 20 2005, 22:17:48 UTC 6 years ago

An identical post on www.whedonesque.com got deleted earlier today. No worries, people. It upset me for a moment until I realized this was just the EW article that I've seen before.

He's done with the Fireflyverse for now, because he's got Goners and Wonder Woman to worry about right now. In a couple years, after the DVD sales are tabulated, Firefly will get some more thought again.

[info]snakeghost

December 20 2005, 23:48:19 UTC 6 years ago

Lies!

Lies! Damn lies and you know it! *denial*

:'-(

At least we got a movie huh?

[info]carawj

December 21 2005, 01:10:59 UTC 6 years ago

Bullshit.

See Joss's comment on the article here: http://whedonesque.com/comments/9027#101124

[info]stabbim

December 21 2005, 04:21:38 UTC 6 years ago

Thanks for pointing me straight to the horse's mouth! :)

Never believed that Joss had given up on Firefly, but it's good to have "proof". Now all that matters are the DVD sales...

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[info]dizzyails

January 16 2006, 11:40:22 UTC 6 years ago

firefly

empire ran an interview about this, go to link

http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=17800

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